Brooch is from aq40 tho

True, but people mostly compare epic wearing rogues to green/blue wearing druids... but I've matched rogue dmg the 1 time on Vael, I know its a unique boss since the unlimited energy even if they hold back, the point is capable of being equal for the dmg which was required.

I won't say a druids DPS is awsome and the best in the game as it isn't...

I see it as a fair trade off since you can't benchmark druid vs rogue at healing, ranged dmg and tanking, as a rogue CAN NOT heal, CAN NOT tank and CAN NOT deal ranged dmg like a druid can.

We have more utility, average at the stuff we roleplay in, instead of only doing 1 thing such as most other classes, for example Rogues which only DPS.

And after what I have said above, I very much doubt anyone here has seen a full epic wearing feral druid combined with an excellent player behind it, so you can't say a thing until that happens! 

AQ gear?

50% of his armor yes

well if innervate will be achieved from lvl 40 u will see allot more feral (mainly) resto (side) talented droods for ure pvp ocram for im sure of that

Think that pretty much depends on what you are fighting, cause when i play my mage i find the cat form a lot more annoying with it´s extra speed. Where as vs a rogue you will die pretty fast no matter what class you are if you don´t have much af and hp as catform normaly has, due to you can´t do anything. This is ofc if you don´t have a way to break stunns or simply live through em.

Where as in bear form you can just simply live through the stunns. Think druids main concern is more that they lack stunns and interupts in cat form. Where you have a little more in bearform with feral charge and the stunn. If you look at a fight vs a rogue with any class, it´s hardly the damage a rogue does that you fear, it´s more that you won´t be able to do much the first 5-10 secs of the fight. Well ofc unless you´re a mage then it´s the damage, cause you can break most of the other.

But well a combination of using diffrent shapes as druid in pvp seems to be the best, and it should also be cause it´s about using the right shape for the right point.

So for pvp sure a rogue would beat a cat druid, and it would prolly do just in a fight were you would just use full damage. Unless ofc the druid shapes out. Think zeni meant though that you don´t see much comparisions in druid vs rogue in pure damage, were they have equal gear.

Hm they don´t really have to raid 3x as much to obtain all since somet stuff they don´t really have any competitors for like decent heal leather. Also druids gain a lot ap from str, and i see most str leather basicly going for min anyway to druid. So well they need more time to achieve stuff but less competition for the leather. Rings and jewels though a diffrent matter.

But well from my point of wiev it´s relativly few encounters we need 16 healers in. Like most of bwl is doable with 12-14 depending on encounter. How ever an manadraining encounter like chromagus gets a lot easier.

I have no clue about AQ40 though but i guess it will depend a lot on the encounter what´s needed. I don´t really believe in altering the raid setup that much between instances cause i feel it would be better both from loot point of wiev and guild stability to keep some sort of balance between classes. It´s not really that good though to do full 5 of each class as alliance can do, since our only dispel class is priest.

So i kind of like the idea of having at least half the druids as some sort of utility class to adapt after encounter, since after all it´s what they are meant to be. Supposed to be able to do everything but not be the best on anything, eventhough they are quite good healers.

Sure the loose a little healing efficency, but i see a little more flexibility gained instead, so with innervate going to all druids i don´t really see any point to force all druids speccing full resto.

Just to make sure, i don´t claim druids to do the best dps, or tank best, but they do better the any other healing class.... well execpt maybe shadow priests